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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year order:
Page 98
below relates to enquiries received
during
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1901
De Dion Bouton G2 4.5HP
Another photo received from Ken Brown,
Hampshire (UK)
who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages.
Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car
photos from his collection. Looks forward to his items appearing on the
SVVS website. --
Our Rory Sinclair advises that from the wheel hubs, starting handle
position, dummy bonnet, dumb iron shape etc. this is a cca 1901 De
Dion Bouton G2 rear-engined 4.5HP. Steering column & lever are mods.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1902
Cottereau 7HP RE Tonneau
Another photograph received from Romania
but this time from George Nica, a Fiat aficionado (Romania)
who collects car photos and hopes to edit a vintage
car photo album. This is one from his 'unidentified' file. Is it a 1902
Opel-Drracq?
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could not find a Opel Darracq with these features so consulted our
Ariejan Bos who was not surprised because he is sure this is a French cca
1902 Cotterea 7HP. Closer inspection
provides many features including dumbirons & four prong start
bracket.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1903
Darracq 24HP RE Tonneau
Another photo received from Ken Brown,
Hampshire (UK)
who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages.
Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car
photos from his collection. Looks forward to his items appearing on the
SVVS website. --
Interesting segmented roundish bonnet confirmed by our Rory Sinclair, who
had similar car, this is fine French Paris made cca
1903 Darracq 24HP Rear Entrance Tonneau.
P 1152 is Surrey CC registration.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1904
Turner Miesse 10hp Steamer
Another photo sent to us by our regular contributor and expert Mark
Dawber (New Zealand).
Bonnet has vent in the side, perhaps a steamer and perhaps British.
Long chain case; date maybe as early as 1906?? --
We thought steamer which prompted our Ariejan Bos to some sideways
thinking and advised that it is probably a much updated cca
1904 Turner Miesse Tonneau 10hp Steamer with
a flash boiler. Body, drivers door, bonnet, rad surround, chain cover
all seem much later, poss 1911 style.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1906
Brasier 16'24 Tonneau
Our regular contributor and expert Mark
Dawber (New Zealand)
was searching on the internet and came across a photo on the Saffronart
Blog website of a car notated: Nizam VII (Mir Osman Ali Khan Asaf Jah)
posing with a car probably a 1906 Darracq 12 HP. He doubted the
identification and asked for our oppinion. -- A
couple of our experts agree it is definitely not a Darracq but it is
French and was built in Paris. Shaft driven, this is a cca
1906 Brasier 16'24 Side-entrance Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907
Humber 15 Delivery Van
Interesting photograph received from David
Cass (UK)
of a delivery wagon belonging to Great Grandfather George
Henshall in Blackley area of Manchester, who sold "PANDORA"
Pickles. N1594 is a relatively early Manchester registration. He assues
picture taken when new. -- Body
seems of a different period to bonnet. Unusual basis for a van, and
probably started out as quality car. Front would seem to be a cca
1907 Humber, poss 15hp, but
semi-closed cab and body is probably cca WW1.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908
Brasier Side Entrance Tonneau
Another photo sent to us by our regular contributor and expert Mark
Dawber (New Zealand)
who had received it from Tim Martin and suggested this is a Brasier or perhaps
Mors.
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Morse as there is a definite ridge to the centre of the bonnet and a
cross stripe; Mors generally had curves. This is indeed a
French Paris built cca 1908 Brasier Side Entrance Tonneau. As this
appears to have no chainguard so is shaft drive, probably
16'26. It also has long dumbirons so not KD.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1909
Austin 18'24 Limousine
Another photo received from Ken Brown,
Hampshire (UK)
who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages.
Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car
photos from his collection. Looks forward to his items appearing on the
SVVS website. --
This one looks photo re-touched, hiding the rad, but one of our wise
sages has identified this a
cca 1909 Austin 18'24 Open-drive Limousine.
This one clearly has chain drive. Austin Motor Company started in
1906.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1912
Isotta Frashchini Type KM
Another photo sent to us by our regular contributor and expert Mark
Dawber (New Zealand)
who had received it from Tim Martin and both were puzzled as to what it
was. Unfortunate stain on the radiator badge does not help.
-- My first
thought was Italian Zust, but two of our wise sages have put me right
advising that the chain cover is typical of a cca
1910'13 Isotta Frashchini Type KM Sports,
Tall engine short wheelbase 10.6 Litre, 140HP 130kph. Unlikely the
smaller engined TM 6.2L1912-14.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
Buchet Type A Two-seater
Another photo received from Ken Brown,
Hampshire (UK)
who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages.
Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car
photos from his collection. Looks forward to his items appearing on the
SVVS website. --
This one did not look British so we consulted our experts and our
Ariejan Bos again came up with an answer; it was a French cca
1912 Buchet Two-seater. A
British version the 'Ascot' was built in Stockport.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Vermorel 8'10 Tourer
Another photograph received from George Nica, a Fiat aficionado (Romania)
who collects car photos. This is from his 'unidentified' file.
What is it, and what is CIA?
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knew the badge, just could not find it. Our
Ariejan Bos advised it was not too difficult; 1913
Vermorel Tourer in military service.
CIA stands for Centre d'Instruction Automobile, and was a military
instruction camp for drivers in Ste. Mesme in France during and
probably before WW1. Vermorel was common car in period.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably
cca 1916 Puch Alpenwagen
Another photograph received from George Nica, a Fiat aficionado (Romania)
who collects car photos. This is from his 'unidentified' file. Is it a
Hungarian Marta?
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could find no features to link it to Marta photos we had. Our
Ariejan Bos suggested an Austrian Puch which were RHD and popular. The
front door curves round towards the bonnet, and the bonnet has a 'draw'
handle for lifting, and circular airvent, all Puch features, as are the
mudguards. Probably
a cca 1916 Puch Alpenwagen.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1918
Nash 680 Touring
Photo received from Aad Streng,
Eindhoven, (Holland)
who is again involved in some historic research, which includes
identifying locations and cars on photos. Photo is of two men in a taxi
in an unknown location (presumably southern Europe) nor does he know the
make of the car. -- His
enquiry 2011 was about his father's '37 Nash taxi. Well, this is one
too, a very early cca
1918 Nash 680 Touring. Word TAXA on the
door for Taxi seems to be Danish; if so, the town could possibly
be Copenhagen.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1919+
Ford Model T Tudor Sedan
Photograph posted on the PreWarCar website
by Greg Bailey (USA)
taken c1925 of his grandmother, father and uncle in the oil boom town
of Slick, Oklahoma. Can anybody identify the car ? --
PreWarCar is one of the best old car sites
on the internet but they are consistently very mean with the size of
their photos and the ability to download them for identification. This
one is even smaller than ever but it is just about possible to identify
bits that it is a cca 1919+ Ford Model T Tudor Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923
GN Sports (Watercooled)
Another photo received from Ken Brown,
Hampshire (UK)
who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages.
Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car
photos from his collection. Looks forward to his items appearing on the
SVVS website. --
Wise sages advise this is a cca 1923 GN Sports with 4-cyl engine (by
D.F.P.) made after Frazer-Nash and Godfrey left the concern in October
of 1922. Shaft drive; water-cooled 1100cc. These cars were not success.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1923
Hotchkiss AM Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from a German
comedy film " Der eiserne Gustav" (The Iron Gustav) made in
1958 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. True story of
coach & horses trip from Berlin to Paris to prove horse is as good
as a motorised taxi. --
Upmarket car made in France in Paris by company then better known for
manufacture of armaments. Had branch in Coventry in Britain which
designed the car on the photo. This is a cca
1923 Hotckiss AM Saloon.
Trucks until 1971.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1924
Amilcar C4 Two-Seat Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a Russian
Documentary Film " Chelovek s kino-apparatom" (Man with
a Movie Camera) made in 1926 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Man
travels around Russian cities with a camera
documenting urban life in 1929 Moscow, Odessa, Kharkiv and Kiev. --
Sporting French Car designed by Salomon and Moyer who also designed the Citroen
5CV. Made in Paris this is a cca
1924 Amilcar C4 Two-Seat Tourer.
The C4 range was aimed at longer larger comfort.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Steyr IV Tourer
Another interesting photo sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who
is a collector of old photos. Can we identify this photo taken
somewhere in Austria and bears stamp of the photo atelier from Vienna.
Unfortunately, no date is mentioned on obverse? --
Quite difficult as has transverse spring and flat radiator but we are
relatively sure it is an Austrian cca
1924 Steyr IV 1.8 Tourer
designed by Hans Ledwinka, (later Tatra fame), being only model
with transverse spring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1926
Crossley 15'30 Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a Russian
Documentary Film " Chelovek s kino-apparatom" (Man with
a Movie Camera) made in 1926 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Man
travels around Russian cities with a camera
documenting urban life in 1929 Moscow, Odessa, Kharkiv and Kiev. --
Relatively unusual car in Britain let alone depths of Russia. British
car from Manchester popular during WW1 as suppliers to British
Forces. This is a cca
1926 Crossley 15'30 Tourer (12'14
on UK market).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1926
Ford Model TT Truck
Cinema screen grab taken from a British
historical period drama "Suffragette" made in 2015
where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is about
women's suffrage in the United Kingdom at the time of Emmeline Pankhurst
and was the first to be shot in the British Houses of Parliament (by Big
Ben). --
Has bar between headlamps so is cca
1926 Ford Model TT Truck. Based on the
car but with a heavier frame. First produced in USA 1917, chassis
only, buyer supplying body.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1929
Packard 626 Sedan
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
The plane is a French designed Potez 25 two-seat observation spotter,
probably built under licence by Industria Aeronautica Romana in Brasov,
powered by a 520 hp Salmson or Lorraine engine. The car is bit obscured
but has dished headlamps and sidelights so is probably a cca
1929 Packard 626 Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1929
NAG Protos 201 Landaulette
Unusual photograph received from Steve
Metz of Phoenix Arizona (USA)
showing from L to R, two of his uncles, his grandfather, his
great-grandmother and their driver. On the back is written 'Vienna
1931'. Sorry about the quality, it is a scan of a scan. --
Car is German, Berlin, with a quite
unusual open drive landaulette body, made by Nationale
Automobil-Gesellschaft (NAG), then part of AEG. NAG bought Protos from
Siemens and this is a cca
1929 NAG Protos Open Drive Lndaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1955
Chevrolet Bel Air Convertible
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
was
involved in trying to unsuccessfully identify a film 'still' from a
Danish 1955 movie "Det var på rundetårn". In the
process came across this car in the same moovie and wondered what it
was? --
This is a rather nice cca
1955 Chevrolet Bel Air Convertible.
This was Chevrolet's best trim offering at that time and the convertible
was offered in Bel Air trim only. Bel Air is affluent neighborhood
of Los Angeles, which lies across LA's Sunset Boulevard.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1959
Borgward Isabella Kombi
Interesting photograph received from Drew
Slack (UK)
asking if we can identify the car in front of the queue leaving the
Ballachulish Ferry? Photo in public domain. Regards and thanks in
advance. -- Ballachulish
is in Scotland near Fort William and is at the mouth of Loch Leven
where the Ferry provided a short cut to the other side. Ferry
closed in 1975 when a bridge was opened. The registration is London CC
1962 and car was made in Bremen, Germany, a
cca 1959 Borgward Isabella Kombi.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unknown
c1900 Two-Seater
Another photo received from Ken Brown,
Hampshire (UK)
who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages.
Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car
photos from his collection. Looks forward to his items appearing on the
SVVS website. --
This one seems to have stumped all our experts in the UK and abroad.
Obviously a very early car when there were many experimental makes.
Perhaps a Gillet-Forest, a Fafnir,
or a Nagant. Now
SEE HP 124.
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