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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1902 Benz Parsifal 8'10 HP
Unusual photo submitted by Povertycove
(USA) showing a
vehicle photographed in Germany in 1912 while his grandmother and aunts
were visiting family in Germany. This was relatively difficult and our
external contributors Messrs Warburton and Sinclair both believe it is a
cca 1902 Benz Parsifal 8/10 HP Rear Entrance Tonneau.
While many features match, the radiator configuration with a filler cap
at the front is a bit puzzling. Perhaps a later rad update as was quite
common then.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1906 Chambers 8HP
Photo of a very unusual car submitted by Ruth
Watson, Yorkshire (UK).
Likely owners are either a family called Cunningham or Abernethy
from North of Ireland. John Cunningham was director of a Publishing Co
in Belfast. Sister Dora married Samuel Abernethy in Belfast, also in
publishing but bought a hotel in Co Down when eyesight gave up. Sons
Alfred and Samuel moved to USA.
-- Reg
IB 71 is Armagh CC and car is a cca
1903/4 Chambers 8HP, made in N.I. Later one is on Help
Page 10.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1907 Minerva Tourer
Two photos received from Andy Oswald of
Lowestoft (UK)
asking for help in identifying two vehicles in which a friend's
great Grandfather was photographed. Is it perhaps a Pope?
-- No,
not a Pope. We think this is the same car with a major update a
few years apart. The registration seems to be the same and many of the
bodywork features are identical. Our Tim Harding is sure the second
photo shows a Belgian cca
1907 Minerva Tourer; older shows how it would have been
originally.
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FURTHER INFO REQUESTED:cca
1908 Humber 15 Landaulette
Lovely photos submitted byJulie Pettitt
of World of WearableArt & Classic Cars Museum (New
Zealand) asking for more info on their cca
1908 Humber 15 Landaulette. Our Humber
Expert Tony Oakes advises that the 15hp was catalogued in 1907 and 1908
only. In 1907 it was a 4cyl 3258cc, which was increased in 1908 to
3479cc. They were all in the Humber factory in Coventry rather that in
Beeston. 1908 cars cost from £315 to £465 depending on body. 1909/10
'16hp' had 4084cc 4 cylinder.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1909 Maudsley Landaulette
Rather nice period postcard received from
Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) showing
a car from Campsell's Garage, Burley Wood, Leeds in West Yorkshire. He
thinks the plate is West Yorks. --
We can confirm that the Registration was indeed
issued by West Riding of Yorkshire CC but accurate dating information
has been lost. The car is quite unusual being a cca
1909 Maudslay Extended Landaulette.
Maudslay started cars in 1902 with differing shapes of radiators. Better
known for lorries.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1908 Daimler Tourer
Another two photos from Michael Heaton
(UK) of what he believes are the
same car, one in wrecked condition, the other repaired.
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This is 'repaired' one with ##717 registration. Pre-war Daimler
Register think the 'repaired one is a cca
1908 Daimler. This car has an external chain drive casing,
only made during 1908, which the crash car does not. The front dumb irons and springs
are entirely different suggesting that this is much lighter, and it
carries a pre-1911 AA Badge. Not the same car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1911 Daimler Landaulette
Another two photos from Michael Heaton
(UK) of what he believes are the
same car, one in its totally wrecked condition with the hood up, the
other hood down and repaired. This is the crashed one.
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Pre-war Daimler Register think the crashed car' is cca
1908 Daimler Landaulette
poppet valve car, as both the exhaust
and inlet manifolds can be seen. 12 spokes on the front and 16 on the
rear was a 1908 feature only. The one in the background is cca 1906, registered in
London. Love the jack!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1911 Benz Tulip-bodied Phaeton
Photo submitted by Geekay
(Finland) of a
mystery car in Finland. No-one there here
has been able to identify it. The registration plate is of the pre-1922
type. The photo is taken on a countryside road near the old church of
present day Vantaa, just north of Helsinki. -- Our
John Warburton advised this is a cca
1911 Benz Tulip-bodied Phaeton. Photo
does not help much in pinpointing which of 25 models it could be apart
from it being one of the larger ones. Rudge-type wire wheels;
side lights
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1911 Jackson Model 30
Interesting photo submitted by John
Dennis of Macon (USA)
of a vehicle (circa 1912) that has experts scratching their
heads. The car on the right is a 1911 Ford T Touring as defined by
Model T forum who beat us to advising that the other car is a cca
1911 Jackson Model 30. It was a photo from our Help Page 20
which got them looking in the right direction. See Help Page 20 for write-up
and picture.
Made in Jackson, Michigan, USA; petrol in 1899,
steamers in 1901 and petrol to 1924.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1914 Vauxhall 25 Staff Car
Photo received from Rob Kirk (UK)
part of a small team at BSkyB News researching the First World
War, but no idea where this picture was taken. Identifying the vehicle
might give a clue if in France, Belgium or possibly Germany.
-- We
can advise this a cca
1914 Vauxhall 25 HP, also known as the
D Type. 4,500 were made specifically for the British forces until
1922. Saw service in Jerusalem, Middle East and throughout
the European theatre of war. Guess this will not help at all !!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1919 Paige Sedan
Photo submitted by Greg (USA)
to AACA asking if anybody recognised it. On the back of the photo is
"...took us out in his new car..." 'The most beautiful
car in America', Narraganset Pier, RI, May 1919. -- The
slogan was used by the Paige
Motor Company which followed of from Paige Detroit, and this helped in
identification. Forward slanting louvres and hubs seem to match,
and the headlamp style indicates a pre 1920 date.
Paige made $2.5M loss in 1927 and became Graham Page Motors.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1924 Lancia Trickappa Tourer
Another of a number of very interesting
photos submitted by Jan Lundin (Sweden)
showing vehicles in the 20s and 30s Scandinavia, for which he is seeking
identification and dating. Photon shows the King of Sweden on a
local tour. -- Jan
has habit of unearthing unusual vehicles and this is no exception. This
looks very Italian and Lancia and the triangular section mini-grill on
the bulkhead after the bonnet louvers suggests a cca
1924 Lancia Trikappa Tourer, a
relatively unusual model.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1925 Horch Police Car
Photo sent to our friends at PreWarCar by
Bas de Voogd (Holland)
on the subject of V shaped radiators and type of body style that was
popular with German coach builders of the early twenties. This is
typical of the style and was a car that was in service with the
Police force of Rotterdam, Holland.
-- We
are relatively sure that this is a cca
1925 Horch Tourer. The style of coachwork
is known as 'Tulip Bodied'. Horch were topend luxury car manufacturers
in Germany between 1904-1939.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1926 Amilcar CGS3 Sports
Another of a number of very interesting
photos submitted by Jan Lundin
(Sweden) showing vehicles in the 20s and 30s
Scandinavia, for which he is seeking identification and dating.
-- This is a
lovely period picture showing what could be a prospective buyer the
latest in go-faster sportscars. I am told by our member and
international Amilcar expert Desmond Peacock that this is a 1926
Amilcar CGS3. The 3 stands for a 3
seater, - seat just visible behind the driver. Bigger front
brakes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1926 Packard Sedan
Lovely family photo submitted by Fernand
F. Haenggi (Switzerland)
saying he is investigating family history in Melbourne in the late
1920s. He thinks car may be a Panhard belonging to a local
business man on the photo with his wife and his young mother. The
picnic spot seems to be near a racing track. --
We are relatively sure this not a Panhard & Levassor as the radiator
would be pointed. Our friends at the AACA agree that it is American and
is a cca
1927 Packard 7 Passenger Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1927 Morris Tourer
Photo submitted to Rootschat by David
Ibbotson
(UK). The young boy
in photo is possibly his father. If so, the car would be dated about
1918. Could anyone help with the date of this photo. Also does anyone
now what make/model the car is. -- This
is a
cca 1927 Morris Oxford Tourer and
therefore the lad cannot be his father. Known as the 'Flat Nose' Oxford
after the famous Bull Nose. 185,000 made between 1926 and 1930.
Similar Cowley was a cheaper, simpler, car with fewer wheelnuts.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1927 Packard 343 Speedster
Another unusual photo submitted by
'Grandpa' (USA)
who is another who has a tresure-house of old car photos. -- Puzzling
why a RHD American car would be in Paris. Careful study of the picture
enlarged suggests that the photo was taken against the 'back' of the Arc
de Triomphe and that the orientation is correct. So it would have been a
RHD car in Paris, but as no numberplate on same side at the rear,-
suggesting RHD 1927
Packard 343 Speedster configured for USA use ??
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1931 Morris Minor Two Seater
Very unusual photo of a photo received from
Fiona Willis (UK) of
a car inside a massive pump at St Germans Pumping Station
(Fenland). The car was described as a Model T Ford - it seems nobody had
ever doubted this before! The pump is a Gwynne pump but the car does not
look like a Gwynne car, possibly a Morris. But square bottom radiator?
-- The
GP Sequence relates to 1931 and our Tim Harding is quite sure it is a
Morris Minor. 1931 Minors
did have a centre bar and square
bottomed rad.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1931 Husqvarna-JAP Motorcycle
Another of a number of very interesting
photos submitted by Jan Lundin (Sweden)
showing vehicles in the 20s and 30s Scandinavia, for which he is seeking
identification and dating. -- Jan
has habit of unearthing unusual vehicles and this is no exception. This
is a Sweedish cca
1931 Hasqvarna-JAP Motorcycle. They
made motorcycles from about 1903 and used JAP single and twins on their
faster 1930s machines. V twins were mainly used for racing and sold
within Sweeden.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1932 Armstrong Siddeley 15
Another interesting cinema screen grab
being investigated by IMCDB of a vehicle which appeared in a 1959 film
"Shake Hands with the Devil". This was a black & white
film set in 1921 Dublin, where the IRA battles the "Black &
Tans", the special British forces given to harsh measures. The car
in this scene is a 1932
Armstrong Siddeley Fifteen Tourer which
is mis-cast by some 11 years. The registration helps with the dating and
advising the little car was also far from its home of Wigan in
Lancashire.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1935 Standard 10 Saloon
Another of a number of very interesting
photos submitted by Jan Lundin
(Sweden) showing vehicles in the 20s and 30s
Scandinavia, for which he is seeking identification and dating.
-- Jan has
habit of unearthing unusual cars and this is no exception. This is a
British car owned by his family. It is a cca
1935 Standard 10 Saloon. It must have
given good service because in 1948 they had a Standard Flying 12.
Standard went on to purchase the Triumph Company with TR Sports cars
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1937 Ford Model CX Saloon
Photo submitted
Gordon McFarlane (UK)
of his uncle James Pacitti who was one of the first drivers
with Walter Alexander Ltd, a local bus company in the Falkirk. He was
promoted to "Inspector", shown on the collar and hat. -- We
can advise that this is a 1937 Ford Model CX Saloon registered in
Blackpool. The Ford badge has been taken off; the hood ornament is
non standard; additional metalwork strips on the radiator grille; bumper
is non standard; and a foglamp has been added.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1939 Renault Primaquatre
Lovely photo submitted by Robert
Hoppel of Texas (USA)
of his father in the late 30's
somewhere along the road in Holland (where they lived). He has contacted
the archives and researched the number plate, but in those days they
apparently did not register the make and year of the car; the plate was
only tied to a particular person and he could take it from car to next
car at his convenience.
-- We
can advise that it is a cca
1939 Renault Primaquatre Saloon.
This model was built 1939-1941.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1949 Mercedes Benz 170
Photo taken on the tiny Greek Island of
Paxos by yours truly (UK) parked
inside a bus depot. Nobody was there so could not get any background on
it or any other classics that may be on the island. The Car is a
cca 1949 Mercedes Benz 170 .
While in a generally good condition, and seemingly cared for, the body
fillings and paintwork was in quite a tatty condion. Probably was a
local taxi. No doubt somebody interested will see it, and no
doubt owner will want lots of money for it.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1924 Lancia Tetraiota Charabanc
Two photos sent in by Claire Dulanty
(UK). The first is of a charabanc
outing. Her grandfather, John Whelan Dulanty (1881 - 1955), is at the
front of the middle row. It says 'Southern Railways' on the door. He did
work as a railway clerk in the early 1900s in Manchester. Eventually he
became Ireland's first Ambassador. In the other, presumably taken much
earlier, he is second from the right. Charabanc is cca
1925 LanciaTetraiota/Hall Lewis, and car a Ford Model T Special of
cca 1926.
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