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HELP PAGES HIT 3,000 Enquiries
We are very pleased to announce that we
have hit a very important milestone in our service to the
International Web Community by providing our 3,000th identification.
This was reached on 30 December 2017. We would like to thank all
international contributors who have sent us their enquiries, and we
would especially like to thank our team of SVVS experts, our external experts
and also the many international experts who have provided
identifications in last 17 years. Well
Done!!
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3,000th ENQUIRY !!!
3,000th ENQUIRY !!!
3,000th ENQUIRY !!!
3,000th ENQUIRY !!!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1902
Alldays & Onions 4HP Traveller
Another lovely photo received from Tom Cosens from Yorkshire (UK)
of an old car he didn't recognise. This is from his collection of
postcard curiosities on which he has no other background but which are
needing identification. --
De Dion Bouton controls on the steering wheel. Unusual corrugations to
the sides of the seat/engine cover which did not help me but were very
obvious to our Ariejan Bos who advised this is Birmingham made
c1902
Alldays & Onions 4HP Traveller Voiturette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905
Daimler Marienfelde Post Bus
Puzzling photo found on the website
of one of our plate contributors (UK) where
it is notated as a 1905 Military Post Bus on a route Novi to Petrovac
in Bosnia. Can we identify vehicle? --
Interesting machine from the 1901 Austrian Distributor of Daimler
vehicles. Started own cars 1902 when joined by Paul Daimler and succeeded
by Ferdinand Porsche. Our Ariejan Bos advises this is a cca
1905 Daimler Post Bus via Austro
Daimler. Old-fashioned bonnet used until 1906. A rare photo!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1906 Alexandra Electric
Carriage
Another interesting period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you identify this fine chauffeur driven open top for me
please?"
-- Badly
moire patterned photo which we have much improved. No registration
visible so no aid to dating. Looks early but is British and built just
off Picadilly Circus London by the City and Suburban Electric Carriage
Co. Made one for Prince of Wales. This one is a cca
1906 Alexandra Three-Seated Electric Carriage,
with Co chauffeur.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
Thornycroft 2 Ton Lorry
Another lovely photo received from Tom Cosens from Yorkshire (UK)
of an old vehicle he didn't recognise. This is from his collection of
postcard curiosities on which he has no other background but which are
needing identification. -- Part
photo of what seems to be an early lorry.
No registration is visible so not much
help in dating or location. Radiator similar to Albion and Commer but
this one is taller than the bonnet suggesting this is a Basingstoke
built cca
1909 Thornycroft 2 Ton Lorry.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912
Stoneleigh 13.9 Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
from period New Zealand paper advising of a holdup/murder of driver of
an unspecified car. This is photo of another car in same spot. Recently
identified as Stoneleigh. --
Our doubts that it was a Stoneleigh but one of our wise sages confirmed
that the Deasey Motor Car Manufacturing Co made a cca
1912 Stoneleigh 13.9 Light Four-seater car
with a Knight Sleeve Valve Engine. Name re-appeared 1921 on 9hp V
998 twin utility.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Mann 35HP Road Tractor
Another interesting period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you possibly ID this road roller with a Leeds plate?"
-- Badly
moire patterned photo which we have tried to improve. Registration U
1939 was issued by Leeds County Borough Council in mid 1912. On this
page we have the smaller brother; this is Leeds made cca
1912 Mann 35HP Steam Road Tractor probably
used as a 'gully cleaning wagon'. Seems many of Mann's traction engines
were Leeds registered.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Possibly
1913 Mann Patching Roller
Another interesting period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Unusual road roller/traction engine...and number
plate..C-DE-1. Can you ID please? --
Registration indeed strange, as is the vehicle. Looks to be a small
steam roller pulling a liquids trailer. Likely local, so lots of
research suggests this could be a Leeds built cca 1913 Mann Lightweight
Patching Roller
with a tar spraying trailer which seems to have its own
burner. Co bought by Atkinson, later Scammell.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1913 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer
Another interesting period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Marked Bow Street, Keighley. Can you identify vehicle
please?"
-- Badly
moire patterned photo which we have tried to improve. No registration
visible to aid dating, but fuzzy radiator and front suggested Sunbeam.
It seems the car is pulling a gas bag in a light trailer. Confirmed by
John Warburton and Bruce Dowell that this is a
cca 1913 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer and the
photo would be in 1916-18 period.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1913 Albion 15HP Lorry
Another interesting period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Marked Ackroyds, Keighley. Can you identify vehicle
please?"
-- Moire patterned photo which we have
improved. No Registration is visible. Seems a gas powered lorry with
emptyish bag! Number of lorries made which had superficially similar
radiators and difficult to tell apart. From the louvres and chain
drive we think this is
probably a cca 1913 Albion 15CWT Lorry on their 15HP
Chassis. (??)
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Renault AX Two-Seater
Another interesting period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you possibly identify this farmers car with
interesting load? Sheep car!! --
Not a clear photo but as a sheep farmer I am relatively sure the sheep
is a calf!
No registration is visible so not much
help in dating or location. The car is French, represented in UK by
Renault Freres since 1904. Small car seems later modified, a cca
1913 Renault AX Two-Seater, two
cylinder, 1060cc, and a cow in dickey seat.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1914 Arrol Johnston
15.9 Roadster
Another interesting period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Another from my glass negative collection. There
is a sticker on the windscreen 'NMV,Keighley'. Can you ID please?
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No Registration is visible so not much
help in dating or location. No immediate help from the
"NMV,
Keighley" sign either. Car is fortunately bit easier, not French but
Scottish. Dating from header tank says this is a pretty coachbuilt cca
1914 Arrol Johnston 15.9 Landaulette Roadster.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1915 Ford Model T Pickup
Another interesting period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Marked Bow Street, Keighley. Can you identify vehicle
please?"
-- Badly
moire patterned photo which we have tried to improve. Registration
seems to be AK 4566 which is a Bradford County Borough Council issue
but accurate dating details not available. The Gas Powered truck is
American and from angled radiator but stubby scuttle we can relatively
accurately date it to a cca
1915 Ford Model T Pickup.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Possibly c1916
Jeffrey
Another interesting period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Reg plate letters smudged, number is 852 and could be BU
[Oldham]. Ashton under Lynne on truck and Knapes Gas Burnley on the gas
bag. Can you identify?"
-- Badly
moire patterned photo so not
been able provide a definitive identification. Lights/wheels suggest
American with pointed rad. Suggestion, possibly
cca 1916 Jeffrey Van. Another
Suggestion: Willys-Overland, 1918 Model 90.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919
Spyker C1 13'30 Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
questioning the make of the car. Is it maybe '20s Panhard?? - or Th.
Schneider?? --
No, it is from the Netherlands. Made in Amsterdam by a company started
in 1880, made royal Golden Coach 1898, cars by 1903, second in Peking
to Paris 1907. Aircraft in WW1, so introduced the C1 Aerocoque in 1919.
This is the cca
1919 Spyker C1 13'30 Tourer. Bankrupcy
1922 so bought by British Distributors. Finally closed 1926.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919
Renault Model FU Lorry Crane
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
questioning the make of the vehicle. " I guess it is a big
Renault, not a Mack or Kelly-Springfield? --
Indeed a French Renault and after a bit of research defined on a number
of websites as a 3.5 ton Model MV, a medium sized lorry. However, we
think this is quite a different vehicle, and from the shape of the
header tank and specifically shape of the rear wheel hub, this is a cca
1919 Renault Model FU 7 Ton Lorry Crane.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1927 Leyland Cub Dropside Lorry
Another interesting period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
"Can you give me any details about this Leyland coal truck. Reg
[probably] WX 9089...a Batley firm so could be CX or JX. --
Looks CX 9089 to me, Huddersfield CBC.
Mid size, longish dumbirons, shortish radiator, and an outline of
Layland logo on rad. At that time Leyland used same Cub chassis for
lorries and busses. This is a cca
1927 Leyland Cub Dropside Lorry. Made
in Kingston, in the ex-Trojan factory.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
Jowett 7hp Saloon
Another patterened period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you possibly ID this vehicle. Is this a Bradford
Jowett?? Halifax plate CP 7166. --
Another badly patterned photo which we have tried hard to improve. Registration
CP 7166 is indeed Halifax County Borough Council late 1928. Jowett Cars
1906-53. Jowett Bradford was a van made 1946-53. This is a cca
1928 Jowett 7hp Saloon probably a
Fabric Salon but not possible to make it out from bad photo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1933 Nash Ambassador 8 Sedan
Another interesting photo received from
our regular contributor Andrew Kostin, Moscow (Russia)
saying" New photo just bought. As well as identifying car, could
you please try to ID the country from the registration plate? Back of
photo is blank.
-- Were
hoping to get info on the historic reg from one of our experts but no
answer yet. Car is a bit easier having a sign on the badge bar advising
it a high spec eight cylinder American, a cca 1933 Nash Ambassador 8
Sedan, Twin Ignition.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1935
Bedford WLG Dropside
Another rather nice but puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
of an elephant helping to pull a lorry out of the mud. Photo is
apparently marked as being 1920s but the truck is a Bedford. --
Scene is at Sole Bros Circus, an Australian organisation touring the
Antipodes, started in 1870s. 1926-9 seasons was in South Africa and
Congo. Returned Australia 1929. Still operating 1970. Lorry has chrome
rad and a cross bar so not 1920s, but cca
1935 Bedford WLG Dropside.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1936 Standard Flying 12 Saloon
Unusual photo received from Victor Brumby,
Streatley (UK)
archivist for the club 'Europlate' showing his Grandfather's car, a
Standard NV 7777, but which model? Can you identify?"
-- Indeed a
car made by Standard Motor Co of Coventry. The registration is
Northampton County Council mid 1936.The identification feature for the
year is the molded ends to the louvres saying 1936'7. But there
were three sizes of engine in similar body. Louvre length suggest c1936
Standard Flying 12 Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937
Opel Super Six Saloon
Unusual photo received from Victor Brumby,
Streatley (UK)
archivist for the club 'Europlate', saying he thought a Standard
14/16, but perhaps its a yank? 14 is a Denmark Royal House plate. They
usually ran Mercurys 1930s-50s.
-- Caught
me out. Thought American, possibly 36 Chevrolet, but nothing matched.
Our Mark Dawber thought laterally and suggested GM's European offshoot
Opel. I was not aware they made a waterfall grille car(!!), but this is
indeed c1937
Opel Super Six Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Possibly 1937
Amilcar B38 Roadster
Puzzling period photo received from Maia
Adams (UK)
"My grandad was prisoner of war in Holland in 1944, and escaped in
this car. Not the easiest to identify as is covered. I found a car
which looks similar in Amsterdam on Google". --
Indeed very difficult to identify as most of car obscured. Your
suggestion Opel Admiral is completely different. Some US-Eurocars had
snouty rads. This seems a smallish European car. Best guess French,
possibly cca1937
Hotchkiss Amilcar B38 Roadster.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1939
Standard 10 Saloon
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
probably taken 1950s. Obviously a Flying model but pre or post WW2, and
9, 10 or 12, small aftermarket lamps? --
Standard's Flying range is confusing. Initially had a relatively
conventional grille. Seems waterfall grille came in cca 1938. Standard
12 + had chrome edge waterfall grille post war. Three side windows so we think this car is pre-war and
as it has smaller
headlamps, it is probably a cca
1939 Standard 10 Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1953
Moto Guzzi Ercole Motocarro
Cinema screen grab taken from an Italainmini-series 'Adriano
Olivetti: La forza di un sogno' made in 2013, where cars are
investigated by IMCDB. Film is about Adriano Olivetti, son of Camillo
Olivetti founder of Olivetti empire. Adriano became part of the
underground antifascist movement. --
This Vehicle was made by oldest continuous European motorcycle
manufacturer in Italy, started 1921. This trike was introduced
1948-1980, this being cca
1953 Moto Guzzi Ercole Motocarro.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
UNKNOWN WW1 Gas Powered Lorry
Another interesting period photo
which was a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Unusual lorry with gas bag. Can you identify please?
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No registration is visible so not much
help in dating or location. Wheels have detachable rims so at this time
are likely to be on an American vehicle. Chain drive to the rear
wheels. Slope of radiator and header tank shape suggest European.
Curved bulkhead suggest British. None of our experts were able to nail
it precisely. Help
needed !!
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