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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1902 Panhard - Levassor 16HP
Photo received from Brian Turner (UK).
His enquiry was: "Any idea what make of car this is? I assume it's
pre-1904 as there's no visible registration. Many thanks." As we
have not received a reply to our follow-up email, we know no more about
the photo. Identified by our Tim Harding, the car is a cca
1902 Panhard - Levassor, probaby a 16HP. One of the clues is
the offset starting handle. Lytham Hall is in Lancashire,
originally a small Priory mentioned in the Doomsday Book.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1903 Clement 8HP
Photo received from an Adam (UK)
who advises please help !!! A friend had
asked him to restore a picture (which he has done), and they are
now trying to identify and date the car. The back of the card says
"one of the first motor cars" (hand written) and this is
followed by the names of the drivers and passengers (two of which are
definitely family members). Any help would be great. Our Tim Harding is
relatively sure the car is cca
1903 Clement, poss 8HP. Reg suggests
Yorkshire cca 1905
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INVESTIGATING EARLY HISTORY: cca
1906 Zust
Photo received from Barry Patchett
(UK) who is restoring
a car which he believes is the Zust
which finished third in the Great Race of 1908 from New York to Paris.
The car was brought to England for display. In Bromley, on way to
Folkestone, a fire broke out killing a mechanic. He needs to know: Where
was the car displayed? Was there a dealer in London? Where did the car
go after the fire? Was it shipped from a particular port ? Any shipping
records which identify a chassis number ?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1907 Beeston Humber
Another Photo received from Gillian Long
(UK) taken
outside Rushen Abbey Hotel on the Isle of Man, but she does not know
exactly when. She believes the woman seated in the back of the vehicle
is her great grandmother [1880-1928]. We can advise that the car is cca
1907 'Beeston' Humber. These are distinguishable by the big
rounded scuttle visible behind the screen. Beeston Humbers are so called
because they were made in the Beeston factory, considered
better, than Coventry.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1912 Austin 18/25 Tourer
Photo received from Ray Preston from
the Isle of Wight (UK)
who is doing family research. Photo of a family group taken in New
Zealand in 1915. The lady in the front is my Great Aunt, her
husband, and two of their sons. The note on the back of the photo said;
'Dad (Charles), and I and the boys at camp where Cecil is in Training
for Samoa.' We can advise that the car is an Austin. Original thoughts
were a 10/12 or 12/14 Tourer, but John Caddy and Co think it a cca
1912 Austin 18/24.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1912 Renault AX 8HP
Photo received from Nigel Kennard
(UK) showing his maternal
grandparents, mother and her sisters. The girls were born in 1904, 1905
(mother) and 1908, if that helps. Grandfather was an ammunition
manufacturer’s traveller for Kynoch in Birmingham. Original thoughts
due rad top and dumbirons, it could be a Charron, but our Tim Harding
advised this is a cca
1912 Renault AX 8HP. Registration
unclear; DK 63 would be Rochdale late 1905, and BK Portsmouth. Dates are
confusing!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1913 Rollo Tandem Cyclecar
Photo received from Gillian Long (UK).
Nothing much is known about the photo. We had identified this as a
Bedilia 'special' in view of the bonnet but Graeme Jarrett
contacted us from Australia to say: " Please
refer to attached advert from the 'Cyclecar' magazine November
1912. If you study the detail of the body and mudguards you will see it
is in fact a
Rollo
Tandem circa 1912/13." He is right! Rollos were made in
Birmingham between 1911-13. A sample of
Bédélia is on Help
Page 3.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1913 Cadillac Model 30
Photos received from Jim Ehlers of Lake City,
Florida (USA). We
don't know much about the pictures, other
than : Wife's Grandparents---early 1900's--Globe, Arizona--Autos: Sending these along to you, and wondering what the car is??
Lots of cars of the period had very similar radiators so it can be very
difficult to tell but our Tim Harding identifies this as a
1913
Cadillac Model 30 4 cylinder Tourer.
This was the only model made for a number of years. Picture of another
on
Help
Page 10.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1913 Humber Two Seater
Photo received from Phyllis Elliott
who has not subsequently responded so we have no idea where she is
calling from or any story on the car. She advised that the photo is of
her husband's grandparents taken in about 1915 but after lots of
research no one has been able to identify car. Someone had apparently
suggested it could be French because of the hubcaps but that is all she
can get. ANY help would be appreciated! We can advise the car is
British, and is a cca
1913 Humber Two Seater.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1913 Rover 12
Photo received from Neil Anderson (UK).
He is another enquirer that did not put SVVS-MAIL
in the 'subject'
line and was likely to be auto-deleted with the thousands of SPAM
emails we get. His enquiry was: "My auntie died recently and
my father was given this photograph. It is my Grandparents, and my
father is the little boy in the cap at the back! He is 87 now so I
imagine this is in the late 1920's and he is sure the car was a Rover.
" Pa's memory is good, because it is a cca
1913 Rover 12.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1917 Willys Overnad
Photo received from Andy Bolam
from Platres (Cyprus).
His enquiry was another that did not have SVVS-MAIL
in the 'subject'
line and likely to be auto-deleted with the thousands of SPAM
emails. Andy advises he emigrated to
Cyprus 4 years ago from England and now lives in Platres where the photo
was taken in 1918. He was given this photo as he has a passion for
vintage cars. ..'Congratulations on an excellent web site..' Thanks. The
cars, all three, seem to be cca 1917
Willys Overland 84 - 4.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1920s Daimler Charabancs Mod.CC
Photo received from Peter Taylor,
Wellington (New Zealand) who is preparing a
web site for St George’s House, the Police Orphanage which used to be
in Harrogate, Yorkshire UK. He wanted to include the two photos which
show the orphans going on an outing. Our Tim Harding identified the
second charabanc, also shown in closeup photo as a
cca 1920 Daimler Model CC. All the charabancs behind it also
appear to be Daimlers but we are not quite sure of the make of the front
Charabanc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1920 Richardson Cyclecar
Photo received from Adrian Tyler (UK)
who bought this axle for his vintage 'Special' hill climb car
that is based along cyclecar lines with V twin engine and motorcycle
gearbox. He was told that it is from a c1920
Richardson Cyclecar, but can find no reference the car
existing. We can advise Richardsons were made in Sheffield based on a
JAP V twin engines with friction transmission and belt, later chain
drive. It seems some 500 Richardson Cyclecars
were made before closure in 1921.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1924 Hillman 11 HP
Another Photo received from
Averil Thornton (UK) the editor of a
nostalgic Yorkshire magazine 'Down Your Way' in which readers write
about the past. We don't know anything about the photo. The picture was
very fuzzy and needed repair. The photo was eventually identified by our
Tim Harding as being of a cca
1924 Hillman 11 Hp Two Seater Tourer. This was a development
of AJ Dawson design of the Hillman 'Peace Car' of 1917, before
Dawson went on to have his own company.
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LOCATING SIMILAR CARS: 1924
Wanderer type W8
Photos received from Chris Terdich (Australia)
of his 1924
Wanderer type W8
Race Car. He is trying to find out if any other W8 have survived
anywhere in the world? The car was imported to Australia in 1924
as new by the importer Wagner and has only had 2 owners since. Chris is
only the 2nd owner.
The car was entered in the 1928 Australian GP, and his
Grandfather subsequently won the 1929 Australian GP at Phillip Island in
this car. Chris has a lots of info on these cars racing in the
20s.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1925 Wolseley 11/22 Tourer
Photo received from Cliff Thornton,
Wickford, (UK) who is
researching the works of the famous Lake District photographer
G.P. Abraham, - who took this photo of a car climbing a steep unmetalled
road known as Buttermere Hause. We believe the car is a cca
1925 Wolseley 11/22 Tourer. Registration OM 1872 is a
Birmingham CBC issue of early 1925. Interesting to note the chains
fitted to both spare wheels. Buttermere Hause, village,
valley and lake were never conquered by the Normans.
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REPAIR OF A PHOTOGRAPH: 1930
Bentley 'Blue Train Special'
Our member Bob Drew ran the Lingfield
Garage until his retirement. His wife Jean had no picture of her
Godfather who was the chauffeur to 20s millionaire 'Babe' Wolf Barnato.
Wolf Barnato was one of the 'Bentley Boys' and lived in the nearby
mansion Ardenrun. His daughter Dianna lives locally. Picture, from a
book with the crease running through it, is of Jean's Godfather
Cyril Du Heaume next to Wolf's famous
Gurney Nutting Benley which raced and
won over the famous Blue Train Express
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1930 Rover Light Six
Photo received from Keith Richards (UK)
which is a family snapshot of an outing probably somewhere in
Cornwall. Photo includes his Parents and his Uncles and Aunts. He has
tried to trace the car registration details but these appear to have
been destroyed! We can advise that CV 1531 was issued by Cornwall
County Council, in the first quarter of 1930, which helps in
dating the car. The car is a very lovely Rover and full identification
is that it is a
1930 Rover Light Six Sportsman Saloon.
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INVESTIGATING EARLY HISTORY: 1930
Austin Seven Special
Photos received from Andrew Wilson,
Hereford (UK)
who is looking into the early history of his 1930
Austin Ulster, first owner Mr. Ashwood–Letts
of Postern Court, Holwood Surrey, then Mr. Barrington, Surrey, then
Esher Garage, Surrey? The A7 has a Brooklands type cowl covering a
blower taken off for 750 racing (see photo by a Mr. Valinder,
Gloucester). Our expert notes it was recorded in the A7CA
Register as a 1930 Special colour Cream & Brown chassis owned by a
750MC member.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1933/4 Ford Coupe
The other photo received from Lee
Cooke of Austin, Texas (USA) showing
two cars photographed in Alabama in the 1935 to 1948 period. This photo
was headed 'Granparents front yard, Marion, Al, circa 1945'. We have no
other information on the photographs. Most American car manufacturers
made very similar coupes during this period. What makes this one stand
out is that the doors open forward (suicide doors) making it a cca
1933/34 Ford Coupe, type known as the 'Five Window'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1937 Humber Snipe
Photo received from Mrs. G. Lawrence
(UK). Her
husband's father, Mr HF Lawrence by the car, was chauffeur to two women
who lived in Sydenham. The photo was taken in about 1946. Her husband
would like to know what car it is and details on the number plate. We
can advise that the car is a 1937
Humber Snipe and
that the car behind looks contemporary, a Vauxhall 10hp. The
registration EGW 83 was issued by London County Council
sometime between August / September 1937.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1937+ Morris 8
Photo received from Gemma Whittall (UK)
who has not responded to our emails, hence
we know nothing about the photo. The car is a Morris 8 and our
Chas Moody advises that the Series II Morris Eight was announced
in 1937 with radiator shell painted, not chrome as the Series 1, 'inner
of vertical slats brightened by three chromium plated strips'. Perhaps
later re-chrome? Without other views/distinguishing features, - can't
say more. The registration is Antrim (NI) but
dating records lost.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1941 Chevrolet
Photo received from Lee Cooke of
Austin, Texas (USA) showing two cars
photographed in Alabama in the 1935 to 1948 period. As we have had no
reply to our subsequent email, we have no other information on the
photographs. The photo was headed 'picture circa 1940 - 41'. Being a
British car club we do not have much experience of American cars. The
picture is not very clear and there is not much of the car visible to
make model identification possible. It is however a cca
1940 Chevrolet.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1949 Oldsmobile
Brief email received from a Brian from an
undisclosed country attaching a number of photos of a garage showing a
car under a mound of rubble. He wanted to know the make. In view of no
further correspondence we can only presume that he is not with
the car because much would be revealed by the simple action of removing
the toolbox. Fortunately the photo shows a specific giveaway in the form
of the sidelight unit assembly, which is typical of a cca
1948/9 Oldsmobile.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1958 BSA C12 250cc
Photo received from Julie Goucher (UK)
asking if we would be able to help identify the model details of
this BSA. It was purchased by her father in law in Dorset, while
stationed at Blandford Camp in 1958. He paid the sum of £250 for it but
can not remember any more details. We can advise that LPR 937 is a
Dorset County Council registration number which was issued between March
and May 1958. We therefore think the motorcycle in the picture is a 1958
BSA C12 250cc, see link
to brochure.
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H E L P IS NEEDED PLEASE !
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normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which
we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally
we get stuck. Clicking on the photo on the right opens the page
containing some photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated.
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